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By Abominate  |  Posted: September 01, 2012

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I went round to see a friend of mine this evening. He is 71 and a

pensioner. His wife is younger, and not yet of pensionable age. Although

he has been told consistently, the housing benefit changes will not

affect pensioners, this week he discovered, that in fact it will. He

lives in a 4 bedroomed house, where he has raised a family, who have

gone on to raise their own and has several grandchildren, who often come

to stay with him. He has now been told that because his wife is not a

pensioner, he will have to pay the 'bedroom Tax' or move to smaller,

more suitable accommodation.

I did some checking and found this-


From October 2013, when Universal Credit is introduced, if either

member in a couple is under the qualifying age for pension credit then

the couple will be treated as working age. This means they would be

expected to claim Universal Credit, and would therefore be subject to

the size criteria and benefit cap.

And this-


Note also that while the government says that pensioners are not

affected, if their partner is not a pensioner and so they have to claim

UC rather than pension credit, they could be affected unless they are

excepted from the general rule.

So much for the government's

claim it won't affect pensioners; question is, will this apply if you

are a pensioner and have a son or daughter- or even lodger or carer of

working age living with you?

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  • becca  |  September 17 2012, 11:35AM

    The Universal Credit is an ill-thought out shambles, Cameron even tried to remove Ian Duncan-Smith from his job, but IDS clung on. IDS has been warned by his own advisers that a vital elements of UC are "unworkable and unfair", whilst the cost of implementing the UC is running at over £2 billion a year ... The government love giving £100s of millions to consultants and I.T firms, presumably because ex-ministers often become consultants and directors of these firms at a later date. But then it's really about punishing the poor and the elderly, while riding the government gravy train to their offshore bank havens.

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  • Abominate  |  September 02 2012, 11:07AM

    Clickable link to the petition- http://tinyurl.com/d6bv4wo For some reason thisistamworth doesn' p-a-r-s-e secure (https) links! Neither will it allow the word p-a-r-s-e; it puts an asterix in place of the letters a-r-s-e! See- p****.

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  • Abominate  |  September 02 2012, 11:05AM

    CllrChris, I am a member and admin of a FaceBook groupthat seeks to gather information, distribute it and invites folk to tell their stories. this group can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/c92tvg6 I have also started an online petition (to which I may have already emailed you a link), but in the event I have inadvertently missed you, the petition is here: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Paul_Higgins/?caWNWbb I invite you to sign the petition, join the group and to share links to both these pages.

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  • CllrChris  |  September 02 2012, 10:06AM

    And so the truth gradually emerges! Thanks for that Abominate. I'd been trying to find out how this was affecting pensioners and I was being met with a stonewall of assurances that "pensioners would not be affected". Now we know different. Just how much different is a matter for more research.

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